Every now and then I receive an email that drives me to think further. Dave sent one of the longest emails I have had in a long time and asked me for my thoughts on September 11, capitalism, pollution and drugs in the United States. However, living in Europe and observing from the outside is very different than being inside the environment. I thought we could discuss about the different topics he mentioned here:
Ilker,
There is so much to discuss when it comes to 911. I would start by determining who benefited the most from 911 because people don’t take actions like that unless they think they will benefit from it. Then I would talk about the way the US responded to 911. Then I would talk about the 911 event itself and how it was done, which would lead to the US ’s official investigation and its explanation of how the event unfolded. And from there the endeavor will take on a life of its own if done right. It will polarize people from there on in as there will be some people responding with their emotions not their intellect. That’s when it gets fun to see how people can be so irrational.
I have seen this subject broached on many sites. It drives people to those sites as the issue creates polarizing views and people start telling their friends to join in to support their views. And if it turns into something interesting the main stream media could pick it up. Put up a couple of links to controversial documentaries on YouTube or some other video sharing site and away you go. It is interesting and fun if you don’t take things too seriously even though it is a serious issue. You have to be careful that people can’t not say you are editing the comments as that will kill the fun and people will stop posting. You have to let all the comments be posted in real time as people wait for responses and will respond immediately starting a back and forth posting by a groups of people. I know because I personally have been involved in many controversial conversations.
Other subjects that cause people to start thinking is when you talk about our economic and capitalistic system. For example when you tell people the Federal Reserve is privately own and it prints the US money and then charges the US government interest on the paper money they print without that money being secured with gold or other valuable material. What gives the Federal Reserve the right to print money and then charge the American people interest on their own money? The government gave the Federal Reserve the right to print and charge interest on that money in the early 1900s and it continues to this day.
Another subject that affects us all is our corporate law system in North America and other parts of the world. Let me give you an example of how it promotes everlasting suffering and everlasting pollution. Once you realize that there are only two main legal responsibilities for people who sit on the board of directors of a North American corporation it is simple to see how that hurts us all. The legal responsibilities in order of importance are 1) you must make decisions that make money for the company; 2) you can’t break any laws while you are making all the money possible for the company. Sound simple and harmless at first glance but let me give you a scenario that occurs every day in North America that causes untold harm to our society in general.
Let’s say a corporation is making a billion or so dollars a year by selling equipment and drugs to treat diabetes. And say that corporation’s research and development department discovered by accident a cure for diabetes. I say discovered by accident because it would be against our current economic law for that company to actively look for a cure as it will harm the company financially. Knowing this what do you think the board of directors of the company has to do when the information of the cure is brought to their attention? If you said they have to hide the cure you would be right. If they wanted to release the information and chose to ignore the law, each board member would be held personally responsible for the corporate losses due to their actions. They would have to pay out of their own pockets for those losses as it is the right of the shareholders to sue them for breach of trust because by law they have to make decisions that make money for the company and since it is not illegal to hide the discovery them must hide the discovery or face prosecution and the loss of their personal assets.
I know that discoveries that are in the public interest but would hurt corporations' financial interests are hidden from the public everyday. I have many examples that are not public knowledge that I could use to easily explain how it harms our world and may even destroy us in the end unless we do something about it. But before anything can be fixed you have to know it is broken and not many people even think about our economic system having a problem. All you have to do is figure out who benefits from an action and you can figure out who is doing what and why.
Another good topic is the war on drugs and how making drugs illegal puts drugs into the hands of the criminals because there is money to be made off drugs. Legalize the drugs and have the government sell them like they sell alcohol and that way we could stop the criminals from trying to hook kids on drugs because that will create a long term customer for the drugs. Right now we are allowing the criminals to decide where the drugs will be sold, the potency of the drug, and the quality of the drug and that is harmful to many young people.
Anyway as you can see I am a thinking person, but I can’t put all the things I would like to talk about in one email. I like to share my thoughts even if they are controversial or go against the grain especially if I feel I have a logical argument. I enjoy discussing hard topic as they are usually the topics that if a change in mindset were to occur it would make our world a better place.
It was just a thought as you have the right name (thethinkingblog.com) for this subject mater. Let me know what you think!
Wishing you well,
Dave.
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We have so many things that we really need to take care of...it's very important to think...about what we say, we do...
It's a very interesting post...
M.
I kept waiting for the part when Dave described how to make the perfect tin foil hat to keep the gov't from reading our minds.
Oddly enough, Dave's thoughts are not too far from things I have thought myself. I am SURE we have at least one cure for one of these things but it is not in the best interest of the drug companies of the world to let the information out.
Sorry, the older I get, the less trustful I get of corporate America, or corporate anything for that matter. It's all about the money. To have such a thing unveiled would not surprise me in the slightest. I hate to admit that, but too many things have happened and too many things are just too suspicious these days.
I think he's rambling.
The government is lying to us, corporations are evil and greedy, drugs are bad. There. I just summed up his whole letter.
This is an example of the blame game. The reasons corporations have so much power is because we empower them. We control the money, not them. We, as a society would rather pay $9.77 for a CD at wal-mart than go to the independent record store and pay $10.99.
Anyone can sit there and blame, blame, blame. Money has always been the root of all evil but when you follow it's path to the top you have to start with the guy cashing his paycheck and planning how he's going to spend it.
Yes, America has some serious problems right now but they're not going to be remedied by speaking on broad terms about "government," "corporations," "drugs" etc. Change starts with every person making a dedicated effort to change the things that they actually have the power to change.
Brian:
I am sorry about the way I write as I was educated in French but want to learn how to write in English. So it may sound like rambling because I am searching for the right words. Please excuse me.
I understand what you mean about the blame game and I agree society encourages corporations to be ruthless in fact we reward them with our business. And in my mind I am not against or criticizing corporations. I have sat as a board member on a corporate board of directors. So I am speaking from personal experience when I talk about the legal responsibility and duties of the individual board of director member. If I am wrong please let me know, but I am not trying to bad mouth corporation. What I am bad mouthing is the law under which corporations are governed.
I have always been told that if you don’t know what the problem is then you can not fix it. I was simply pointing out a flaw in our corporate law that needs to be addressed. We are at a point in our evolution where we have the ability to degrade our environment to the point of causing serious human health issues around the world.
Let me give you a real world situation that I am aware of which could better illustrate the seriousness of this problem. Copy and paste the following into your browser video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-1371409127278996620&q=HHO+Gas It is an American news broadcast from May 2005 about a new invention that could solve our energy problem and end many conflicts around the world. (Search "HHO gas" on Google videos if the link above does not function properly.) The sad truth is that Exxon Mobil had a legal responsibility to their shareholders to purchase the patent on this device and bury this Earth saving device because if developed and sold on the market it would devastate the oil business.
Even if you think the invention in the video was a hoax there is still the possibility for such a device to be discovered and suppressed legally. With our current corporate law it makes finding any solution to our environmental problems highly unlikely. We must find a way to make suppressing such earth saving technologies against the law all over the world.
I had one fellow tell me that if Canada had a law that placed public good ahead of corporate profits that it could cause economic hardship for Canada. I told him “Canada could also become the world leader in new technologies giving us an economic advantage over the rest of the world. We could be known for the country that made a real difference in the world. Ok, so I am dreaming, but I understand the problem and that is a start.
I will post more food for thought later as I have to get back on the hamster wheel; aka get back to work. It is always fun to share my crazy ideas and I hope you enjoy them even if you disagree.
Wishing you well,
Dave
Well it's good people are still thinking about 911. There are still some mysteries surrounding it, and I for one can't rule out that the US government had at least something to do with it. I am not saying they actively started it, but I do believe that they knew something about it and did let it (passivly) happen.
There are just too many benefits for America since 911. They can wage war all around the world whereever they please to, stating that there are "terrorists" in this and that country and therefore they have to "liberate" it. I wonder if the people in Iraq today feel "liberated"... they are still an opressed people, only the dictator changed kinda. War is still on the streets there.
Terrorists... that brings me to Guantanamo Bay... what a facility. Such a thing would never be allowed for any state of the EU, but America once again does as it pleases to. Guantanamo Bay is against every law from the human rights charta, but noone is doing anything against it, or better, can do anything against it, because America "the great world police" is saying so.
I do not think Dave is a conspiracy theorist or is playing a "blame game". He has been paying attention, probably more than most.
One of the worst aspects of the current standing of corporations is that they are considered to be legal "persons" in every way except responsibility. This odd development came about from a legal case many years back and was interpreted since then - there is no law that says corporations are legal persons. I believe that if this one aspect of corporation law were changed so that individuals responsible for the corporation's actions are held responsible individually, then a great many misuses of corporate power would cease. It would be a start.
Dave is right that the board of directors is responsible to the shareholders. Not to us, not to the public. Interestingly, this does not mean that a corporation cannot make money while doing good. Many have. It is just easier to follow than to lead.
Dave, could you maybe select an example with some scientific validity? I hate it when people who don't understand the scientific process start spouting off about new inventions that the big evil corporations are supposedly hiding from us.
Chemists do not fully know how HHO gas works so it's perhaps a decade away from being the kind of "magic bullet" that could bring down Exxon. Furthermore, it hasn't been abandoned. Its properties are currently in the process of being verified by third parties (a process that every new discovery has to undergo.)
I agree that corporate accountability is a big issue though. There's not enough public oversight with respect to responsible use of technology. I think a much better example is the use of ethanol from corn as a flex fuel. It's not the best solution to the problem but the agriculture lobby would have us believe that it's going to save the Earth. I personally think that thermal depolymerization is better but, time will tell.
It does not matter if you are on one side or the other of any of the issues brought up in this email, it is still a great "thinking" post. The comments on this post definitely help the "thinking" too. Personally, now I want to go and research more of the HHO possibilities. Just another wrinkle for your brain - Did you know that the diesel engine was originally supposed to run off of veggie oil? I think this post explains it much better (and does talk about converting a diesel back to veggie oil) - http://enchantedgypsy.blogspot.com/2005/
04/great-veggie-oil-conversion.html
I think your Blog is very thought provoking and debating issues has gotta be better than firing missiles at each other,
Take Care.
Aetherfukz;
As far as 911 is concerned there are many things that had to wrong for it to occur. I remember the day of 911 as the coverage started shortly after the first plane hit. According to the records of that day the American civil air controllers informed the military of the first two hijacked planes before the first tower was hit and then 10 minutes later alerted them of the other two planes that were hijacked and asked them to intercept which never happened. That meant the mighty US military had over half an hour to intercept and destroy the second plane to hit the towers and over two hours to intercept the plane that hit the Pentagon.
The week before 911 a Learjet lost radio contact and went off course and was intercepted by US military fighter jets with in 10 minutes. Yet on 911 we had hijacked jets flying around US air space for more than two hours without a single military jet even attempting to intercept. No one lost their job or was demoted or punished in any way for the failure of the US military to respond appropriately. Some say the terrorist controlled the military.
Then there is the obvious demolition of World Trade Center Building # 7 that collapsed at 5:30 pm on 911 due to fire. No plane hit WTC building 7. This would mark the first time in the history of steel frame high rises that one collapsed due to fire. Further to that when you look at the videos of the collapse it is obvious it fell in a controlled demolition fashion. And when you find out who the tenants in WTC # 7 were you will see who benefits from the collapse. Can someone tell who the tenants of WTC #7 were?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEYRtIYq8KQ
The above link will take you to the story of the last living eye witness to get out of the towers before it fill and his story is compelling.
Dear Brian
I am glad you asked me for an example as I am a Graduate from the Chemical Engineering program at Cambrian College and the Environmental Biology program at Canadore College here in Canada. And you are right that current scientific knowledge can not explain exactly how this process works. But you seem to think not knowing how it works scientifically makes it invalid somehow and we will have to wait for scientific validation to take advantage of this discovery. Why do you say this? Would you say that if we found a proven cure for cancer but did not know how it worked that we should with hold it from cancer patients? It seems like odd thinking to me. It has been proven to work and it has passed all safety tests and standards in the US so why does it matter if we don’t know scientifically how it works?
Let me give you a little of what I know about this special electrolysis process verses what I was taught in College about electrolysis. I was taught and was able to prove the efficiency of our lab electrolysis experiment was only 70% efficient in converting the electrical energy we put in as compared to the about of energy we got out in Oxygen and Hydrogen gas. Most of the 70% energy lost was lost threw heat into the environment around the experiment. We prove our formula of energy over time in our science books were correct given the configuration and condition set out in the experiment.
But you must know that many things affect the rate of any chemical or electro chemical reaction. To start, Mr. Kline’s invention was different in that he gave the reaction more surface area to occur, unlike my lab experiment where we had a ¼ of a centimeter of # 10 copper wire exposed at the cathode and another at the anode. Another thing that is different is Mr. Kline’s invention does not have an anode or cathode sites as his invention generates HHO gases over a large area of stainless steel configured in such a way that it also creates a magnetic field much like a solenoid does when current is run through the looped or coiled wires of a solenoid.
The magnetic field in this invention is generated by stainless steel pipes configured with a center stainless steel pipe of one inch in diameter with another with another one being 1.5 inches placed over top of the first one and this is repeated with a 2 inch diameter pipe and a 2.5 inch diameter pipe until there are five or six pipes one inside the other being held in position related to each other with non conductive rubber blocks so that they do not touch each other. The energy used is DC power with the centre pipe being connected to the positive lead and the outer pipe being connected to the outer pipe. The pipes act like the loop in a solenoid and when energized creates the magnetic field.
The magnetic field is very important to the process as it is able to create a magnetic moment on the atoms of Oxygen and Hydrogen. This magnetic moment is the same on all the Oxygen atoms which is opposite on the Hydrogen atom. It is theorized that this magnetic moment repel the atoms from each other so they are not able to get close enough to form the normal covalent bonds that would result in normal electrolysis or even in our atmosphere. That is why the HHO gas needs to be generated on demand because when you try to store the gas the magnetic moment with dissipate and allow the atoms to get close enough to form diatomic molecules of Oxygen and Hydrogen. That is how the flame from the torch reacts differently with different substrates because it is not diatomic molecules being burnt to create heat it is atoms of Oxygen and Hydrogen reacting with the substrate producing different temperatures and energies for different sub straight materials.
The final condition that drives the electrolysis forward to the gaseous state is pressure. IF you relieve atmospheric press from the reaction it can make it 20 times more efficient as the reaction does not have to overcome the atmospheric pressure. When used as a welding torch there is a vacuum in the device that relives the pressure but when it is being used to run an internal combustion the vacuum can be created by the intake of the inter combustion engine.
So the three factors that drive the reaction to the most efficient possible in Mr. Kline’s invention where taught to us we never tested them on electrolysis although they do apply to electrochemical reactions. Just ask any scientist in chemistry.
And if you think it is decades away take a look at this video of a guy near Atlanta Georgia who sells copy cat devices of Mr. Kline’s invention to the general public.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2238805429946487167&q=HHO+Gas+magdrive
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8809836514486955877&q=HHO+Gas+magdrive
And there are many more back yard builders of these devices selling them online to the world. Some do not work as they are simply looking for a fast buck but others understand how simple it is to build these devices that they have already started the conversion from gasoline and diesel to HHO Gas. So the cat is out of the bag so to speak and I doubt it can be suppressed now given the power of the internet to spread the word.
As for Exxon Mobile looking to buy this device, I spoke to Mr. Kline who told me he is in talks with them to sell his patent. It would be sad if it happens but there is nothing illegal about what they are doing. It is this situation that brought the problem with our economic and corporate law in our capitalistic system to my attention. You see how this discovery could upset the economy in an adverse ways for some time and I am sure many of you have thought about it. Rest assured after the initial shock to the economy it would adjust to the new reality.
I hope I did a good enough job describing this device for you Brian. Let me know what you think. I am personally aware of three other energy devices that could change the way we energize our lives and could change the world.
God, this is horrible! I feel like shooting myself. Greed, greed, greed! Corporations suck! Government is corrupt. Conspiracy lurks everywhere.
Please!
After Jesus Christ, Capitalism is the single greatest thing that has happened to this planet. Your writer talks about the problems with corporations? How about this--I would not be alive without corporations.
I have a medical condition that requires me to take drugs in order to live.
Oh, what about this: 1900 in the Unites States, the average life span was about forty some odd years. Now, it's closing in on eighty. Why? Corporations. Again, who do you think develops new drugs?
How about another example from another part of life. Blogging. Last time I looked, the Internet was run on computers made by (no, not a bunch of back to the Earth European hippies) Corporations.
What is a corporation? Just a legal entity that makes business possible. Without the corporate shield very few people would go into business. There would be too much personal exposure and risk. Without publically traded corporations, you couldn't raise capital.
Dear lee
Did you not read all of the post about this blog? It is not the corporations that are bad; it is the legal premise under which the corporations are forced to operate under that will keep us living with eternal suffering and pollution if not addressed. I never once suggested that corporations are bad. Where do you get this from? The point is we should not create the conditions where if a corporation wants to do the right thing they are not allowed to do so without suffering legal and financial ramifications. All we need to do is make sure the public good is legislated into our corporate law structure. Maybe find a way to allow for adequate compensation for the corporations who experience loss due to the cure they have developed.
I too suffer from a disease that corporations make meds to treat and without those meds I would die fairly quickly, but I fail to see how that has to do with anything I said. If we develop a legal system that would allow corporations to work on cures for diseases rather than having as a goal to develop treatments because they are more lucrative than a cure it would be a better system for them to operate under. It is legislated that profits come first over the well being of the people they serve. Would you not rather say to me “who do you think develops cures” instead having to say “who do you think develops the new drugs to treat our diseases.
It is not a simple problem and it will take many thinking people with creative ideas to address this problem. But I have confidence in people of the world that this critical issue can be dealt with in a way that does not hurt our great corporations. However, we must be more thoughtful then to run to the rescue of corporations when all I was intending by tackling this issue is to make our corporations stronger and more effective at doing what they do best and that is to find solutions to problems instead of being forced to develop treatments to our problem. I believe many corporations are frustrated by this situation and would like this problem addressed. That does not mean down with capitalism it means adjusting capitalism so it can better serve us.
Lee you must agree that if you don’t know there is a problem it can not be fixit. Would you rather I not tell you about the problems that require our attention or are you rooting for the end times prophesized in the Bible. Because this problem could cause the end times to occur sooner rather than later.
Dave, those headaches you're experiencing are the result of the imbalance between atmospheric pressure and the vacuum in your skull.
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